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	<title>Comments on: Things Newbies Say</title>
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	<description>Discussion, issues and answers for the independent publishing community, hosted by Marion Gropen</description>
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		<title>By: Marion Gropen</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-16691</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Gropen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 01:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Links to my posts are always nice. Unfortunately, link requests are another frequent technique that spam bots use to get their first comment approved. Since some bloggers let comments go through after the first comment is approved, this gives them one or two clear shots at posting comment spam. 

This blog doesn&#039;t work that way. I look at every comment. But if your blog does, be forewarned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links to my posts are always nice. Unfortunately, link requests are another frequent technique that spam bots use to get their first comment approved. Since some bloggers let comments go through after the first comment is approved, this gives them one or two clear shots at posting comment spam. </p>
<p>This blog doesn&#8217;t work that way. I look at every comment. But if your blog does, be forewarned.</p>
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		<title>By: Forrest Whitinger</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-16688</link>
		<dc:creator>Forrest Whitinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 21:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent.. is it alright if I link to this post from my site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent.. is it alright if I link to this post from my site?</p>
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		<title>By: BuffySquirrel</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-13992</link>
		<dc:creator>BuffySquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favourite is: &quot;This story was previously published in x but I hold all rights.&quot;

No.You.Don&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite is: &#8220;This story was previously published in x but I hold all rights.&#8221;</p>
<p>No.You.Don&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Giovannetti</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-13739</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Giovannetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if all you guys keep quoting me, I&#039;m gonna sue you for plagiarism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if all you guys keep quoting me, I&#8217;m gonna sue you for plagiarism!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Nixon</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-6401</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming in late, but:

I don&#039;t want to sell my book on Amazon. They want to much money. I&#039;ll just sell it on my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming in late, but:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to sell my book on Amazon. They want to much money. I&#8217;ll just sell it on my website.</p>
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		<title>By: PublishingGuide</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4521</link>
		<dc:creator>PublishingGuide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry that you found this, and many of the things the publishing community has said to you elsewhere, offensive. All humor aside, the reason I finally posted this, is that I thought some of the more naive newbies might take warning from it, and re-evaluate their hopes before their dreams and bank account were damaged beyond repair.

It&#039;s very rare for any experienced publishing pro to encourage newbies to expect any of the things above. And there are many ethical professionals in the publishing community who routinely turn down would-be clients when the project is just not going to go where the client wants it to go. 

And yes, most of the manuscripts in the world shouldn&#039;t be read by anyone unrelated to the author. I choose to speak and write for the authors of the ones that are ready for primetime, and for the publishers who choose to work outside the boundaries of one of the tiny handful of large publishers. I happen to think that this is where the intersection of individual taste, energy and professionalism can change the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you found this, and many of the things the publishing community has said to you elsewhere, offensive. All humor aside, the reason I finally posted this, is that I thought some of the more naive newbies might take warning from it, and re-evaluate their hopes before their dreams and bank account were damaged beyond repair.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very rare for any experienced publishing pro to encourage newbies to expect any of the things above. And there are many ethical professionals in the publishing community who routinely turn down would-be clients when the project is just not going to go where the client wants it to go. </p>
<p>And yes, most of the manuscripts in the world shouldn&#8217;t be read by anyone unrelated to the author. I choose to speak and write for the authors of the ones that are ready for primetime, and for the publishers who choose to work outside the boundaries of one of the tiny handful of large publishers. I happen to think that this is where the intersection of individual taste, energy and professionalism can change the world.</p>
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		<title>By: bowerbird</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4477</link>
		<dc:creator>bowerbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you people are funny.

you sit here and laugh at newbie authors
because of their unrealistic expectations,
and then you egg them on elsewhere by
telling them to start their own company,
so you can sell them your services...

-bowerbird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you people are funny.</p>
<p>you sit here and laugh at newbie authors<br />
because of their unrealistic expectations,<br />
and then you egg them on elsewhere by<br />
telling them to start their own company,<br />
so you can sell them your services&#8230;</p>
<p>-bowerbird</p>
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		<title>By: Marny Parkin</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4443</link>
		<dc:creator>Marny Parkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One I&#039;ve been dealing with recently:

Why are there more/fewer pages in the book than in my original MS Word file? I even changed the margins to make it the right size! — I use a different font and a different type size and a different leading (line spacing) than what you used. I don&#039;t just take what you&#039;ve done and put it into book form, I choose fonts and sizes and leadings that work better for books than for manuscripts to make the book more readable for your audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One I&#8217;ve been dealing with recently:</p>
<p>Why are there more/fewer pages in the book than in my original MS Word file? I even changed the margins to make it the right size! — I use a different font and a different type size and a different leading (line spacing) than what you used. I don&#8217;t just take what you&#8217;ve done and put it into book form, I choose fonts and sizes and leadings that work better for books than for manuscripts to make the book more readable for your audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele DeFilippo</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4438</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele DeFilippo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My book doesn&#039;t need editing. I had an editor once, and all she did was change a few words around.&quot; 

&quot;I really like everything about the cover concepts you presented. Here&#039;s what we need to do next...&quot;

&quot;I LOVE the back cover copy you wrote. Can we change it around some?&quot;

&quot;We&#039;re going to ask several people to send cover concepts, and then we&#039;ll pay the person who did the best job.&quot;

&quot;But I WANT the text to be set in 16 point with 2 inch margins so it&#039;s easy to read.&quot;

&quot;My book doesn&#039;t need to be proofread. It was already edited.&quot;

&quot;I understand that curly quotes are correct, but I think straight quotes look more modern and MY readers will understand.&quot;

&quot;I know a title should be short, but MY book is different, and people won&#039;t understand my topic unless I&#039;m very specific.&quot;

&quot;I really need to use caps, underlines, boldface, AND italics in my text [on every other line] otherwise the reader won&#039;t understand what I&#039;m saying.&quot;

And my all-time favorite:

&quot;I&#039;d do the job myself, but I don&#039;t know how. This should be a simple job for someone who knows what they are doing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My book doesn&#8217;t need editing. I had an editor once, and all she did was change a few words around.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;I really like everything about the cover concepts you presented. Here&#8217;s what we need to do next&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I LOVE the back cover copy you wrote. Can we change it around some?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re going to ask several people to send cover concepts, and then we&#8217;ll pay the person who did the best job.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But I WANT the text to be set in 16 point with 2 inch margins so it&#8217;s easy to read.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My book doesn&#8217;t need to be proofread. It was already edited.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I understand that curly quotes are correct, but I think straight quotes look more modern and MY readers will understand.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I know a title should be short, but MY book is different, and people won&#8217;t understand my topic unless I&#8217;m very specific.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I really need to use caps, underlines, boldface, AND italics in my text [on every other line] otherwise the reader won&#8217;t understand what I&#8217;m saying.&#8221;</p>
<p>And my all-time favorite:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d do the job myself, but I don&#8217;t know how. This should be a simple job for someone who knows what they are doing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cyn Mobley</title>
		<link>http://gropenassoc.com/blog/2008/05/things-newbies-say/comment-page-1/#comment-4435</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyn Mobley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, okay, that was three. I got carried away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, okay, that was three. I got carried away.</p>
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